new wording oath of druid

Démarré par astre, 30 Septembre 2009, 20:39:52

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CitationExodus Oath Cycle
These have largely the same problems as the Keepers. As printed, their trigger conditions contained "intervening 'if'" clauses that had targets. The modern rules says this is also a no-no: The clause is checked to see whether the ability even triggers, but the target isn't chosen until after that point. So, again, it's a paradox. There are also issues involving the phrase "target opponent." The way these cards are supposed to work, the player whose turn it is chooses the target, and that target is supposed to be an opponent of that player. However, unless the ability explicitly says otherwise, the player who actually chooses the target—and the player the target must be an opponent of—is the player who controls the ability (that is, the player who controls the Oath when it triggers), not the player whose turn it is.

Again, these were handled in different ways. Four of them kept their "intervening 'if'" clauses, except now they checked all players. One (Oath of Mages) used a complex targeting parameter instead.

These are all getting new wordings, and they're all getting complex targeting parameters like Oath of Mages. This lets the player whose turn it is choose the target, and have that target be one of his or her opponents. Targeting parameters, like "intervening 'if'" clauses, are checked both at the point when the ability would trigger and the point when it resolves, so that remains consistent. (This is a difference between the Oaths and the Keepers.)

New Oath of Lieges wording
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses target player who controls more lands than he or she does and is his or her opponent. The first player may search his or her library for a basic land card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle his or her library.

New Oath of Scholars wording
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses target player who has more cards in hand than he or she does and is his or her opponent. The first player may discard his or her hand and draw three cards.

New Oath of Ghouls wording
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses target player whose graveyard has fewer creature cards in it than his or her graveyard does and is his or her opponent. The first player may return a creature card from his or her graveyard to his or her hand.

New Oath of Mages wording
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses target player who has more life than he or she does and is his or her opponent. The first player may have Oath of Mages deal 1 damage to the second player.

New Oath of Druids wording
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses target player who controls more creatures than he or she does and is his or her opponent. The first player may reveal cards from his or her library until he or she reveals a creature card. If he or she does, that player puts that card onto the battlefield and puts all other cards revealed this way into his or her graveyard

sinon, des nouveaux wording de bounty of the heun (pour ZMX) et illusionary mask, mais j'ai pas vu de différence :o
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quentin

Si j'ai bien compris, rien. C juste qu'avant le wording aurait pu laisser croire que c'etait le controlleur de oath qui choisissait le target opponent, et donc oath n'aurait marché que d'un coté.

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ça change juste que maintenant fish / aggro W a maintenant true believer pour se protéger de oath. C'est pas ça qui va vraiment changer la donne, mais bon c'est déjà ça.
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Citation de: astre le 30 Septembre 2009, 20:39:52nouveaux wording de bounty of the heun (pour ZMX)

Je peut rejouer Bounty sur un triskele (avec berserk) pour coller 20 !!!