Experiment Kraj + Callous Oppressor

[tomjulioo]

Experiment Kraj
Mana Cost: 2 %G %G %U %U
Types: Legendary Creature — Ooze Mutant
Experiment Kraj has all activated abilities of each other creature with a +1/+1 counter on it.
Tap: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
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Callous Oppressor
Mana Cost:
1 %U %U
Types: Creature — Cephalid
You may choose not to untap Callous Oppressor during your untap step.
As Callous Oppressor enters the battlefield, an opponent chooses a creature type.
Tap: Gain control of target creature that isn't of the chosen type for as long as Callous Oppressor remains tapped.
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voila, c'est une situation d'EDH hein...

j'ai kraj et callous (type choisi: A) en jeu
je mets un +1/+1 sur callous.
est ce que je peux contrôler une créature de type A avec le kraj? a priori je dirais oui mais je suis pas sur a 100% et je sais pas pourquoi exactement... rule pliz!

merci

[yukizora]

Le souci c'est que tu ne copies pas le choix du type de créature, et donc la capa sur le Kraj ne fera rien.

[astre]

heu, on pourrait avoir un avis d'arbitre sur le point?
l'avis de yukizora me semble faussé.

[CwaM]

faudrait surtout limité l'accés aux réponses sur ce forum :)

[yukizora]

heu, on pourrait avoir un avis d'arbitre sur le point?
l'avis de yukizora me semble faussé.

L'arbitre te dit merci.

706.7a If an ability causes a player to "choose a [value]" or "name a card," and a second, linked ability refers to that choice, the second ability is the only ability that can refer to that choice. An object doesn't "remember" that choice and use it for other abilities it may copy later. If an object copies an ability that refers to a choice, but either (a) doesn't copy that ability's linked ability or (b) does copy the linked ability but no choice is made for it, then the choice is considered to be "undefined." If an ability refers to an undefined choice, that part of the ability won't do anything.

[tomjulioo]

ok merci... ca va me faire 1 place dans mon EDH  ;)

[astre]

heu, on pourrait avoir un avis d'arbitre sur le point?
l'avis de yukizora me semble faussé.

L'arbitre te dit merci.

706.7a If an ability causes a player to "choose a [value]" or "name a card," and a second, linked ability refers to that choice, the second ability is the only ability that can refer to that choice. An object doesn't "remember" that choice and use it for other abilities it may copy later. If an object copies an ability that refers to a choice, but either (a) doesn't copy that ability's linked ability or (b) does copy the linked ability but no choice is made for it, then the choice is considered to be "undefined." If an ability refers to an undefined choice, that part of the ability won't do anything.

comment on sait que t'es arbitre/compétent?
vu le niveau d'argumentation que tu as donné dans le premier post, ca n'était, je pence, évident pour personne.
Sur le second je m'incline, tu m'as convaincu :p

n'empèche la réponce n'a pas le 'user friendly' qu'on retrouve de la pluspart des rulling de wizard, d'où mon étonnement.

[yukizora]

heu, on pourrait avoir un avis d'arbitre sur le point?
l'avis de yukizora me semble faussé.

L'arbitre te dit merci.

706.7a If an ability causes a player to "choose a [value]" or "name a card," and a second, linked ability refers to that choice, the second ability is the only ability that can refer to that choice. An object doesn't "remember" that choice and use it for other abilities it may copy later. If an object copies an ability that refers to a choice, but either (a) doesn't copy that ability's linked ability or (b) does copy the linked ability but no choice is made for it, then the choice is considered to be "undefined." If an ability refers to an undefined choice, that part of the ability won't do anything.

comment on sait que t'es arbitre/compétent?
vu le niveau d'argumentation que tu as donné dans le premier post, ca n'était, je pence, évident pour personne.
Sur le second je m'incline, tu m'as convaincu :p

n'empèche la réponce n'a pas le 'user friendly' qu'on retrouve de la pluspart des rulling de wizard, d'où mon étonnement.

Non mais c'est vrai que tu savais pas et que la réponse était pas évidente :)